Showing posts with label california TTT's. Show all posts
Showing posts with label california TTT's. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 16, 2010

California TTT grads have it the worst in the nation

This post is California centric but will nonetheless outrage fellow subprimeJD's across the nation.

Its well known that TTTT grads across the nation are suffering with + 100k debt figures and practically non existent legal job offers. Here in California things are even worse for a reason: the California Bar exam is the toughest in the nation.

The pass rates of TTT grads in California are horrible. Thomas Jefferson School of Law recently mustered a pathetic 46% FIRST TIME PASS RATE IN July of 09. Western State never fails to dissapoint. On July 2006 bar, Western State had a 28% first time pass rate as only 32 passed out of 113 takers. Out of 115 repeaters, only 8 passed granting the school a fabulous 7% pass rate for repeaters. And this is an ABA approved school? WHAT THE FUCK!

On the July 09 bar, 850 repeaters from CA ABA approved law schools took the exam, with 265 passing, a whopping 31% pass rate. Admittedly the stats have gone up in the past 3 years but they are still horrible compared to other states. Feb 09 bar had 1034 ABA repeaters with only 385 passing, a 37% pass rate. By and large the CA ABA approved schools leave many JD's with horrible prospects of passing the cal bar and let alone finding legal employment even after/if they pass.

If you havent heard of the California ACCREDITED schools (non ABA approved) well get ready to be shocked. So you know how bad these schools are, here is the data from Feb 09 bar. 493 repeaters with only 55 passing, a PATHETIC FUCKING 11% pass rate. These arent even TTTT's, there T^5!!! Toilet to the 5th power! Of the CAL accredited schools, the University of West Los Angeles wins the prize. On the Feb 09 bar they had 74 repeaters with only 10 passing, a astounding 14% pass rate. First timers from West U of LA managed to pass with a 25% pass rate. The tuition for UWLA is $22,500 per year, exclusing housing. And yes, housing in LA is tremendously expensive. Of course students that attend the CA accredited law schools are more aware of the risks then ABA TTT's as they know full well that the schools are not ABA approved and have consistently dismal pass rates. Yet the schools continue to pump out not just subprime JD's, but fucking snythetic CDO^2 toxic asset JD's.

Imagine all those poor subprimeJD's, taking the bar over and over again. Spending mad money on bar fees, laptop fees, study courses, books, and worst of all, lost time for studying. At least in other states, TTT grads have higher pass rates so they dont lose all this time and money retaking bar exam after bar exam. While TTT's outside of california remain banished from the legal profession upon gaining their licenses, at least they have the time to attempt to obtain some form of part time work while "searching" for their legal jobs.

Thousands of California subprimeJD's take and retake the cal bar year after year, losing precious time and money on a losing endeavor. I know many people that try for 2 years trying to pass the cal bar before giving up, while many even opt for 6, 8 even 10 attempts!! The other day I spoke to a 2007 grad from my TTTT that still hasnt passed the cal bar. Never have I heard him so broken and depressed as he learned that he failed again. He had to take counseling for his depression as his JD from a Cal ABA TTTT wont assist him and actually hurts him in obtaining any employment. Perhaps in the 3 years since he graduated, in the event that he passed the bar on his 1st or 2nd attempt he would be able to search for legal AND non legal employment. But 5 bar exams later, the poor guy is emotionally and psychologically decimated. The good news is that he has finally thrown in the towel. At least now he can apply for those insurance agent positions without the nagging fear/stress/anxiety that comes along with bar prep and results waiting.

And lets not forget about the devastating financial cost. Imagine losing 3 yrs post grad of trying to pass the Cal bar with no success. Its $3000 to $4000 per bar exam (fees, books, hotels). Then you have lost earning capacity as many opt to study like mad, only to find that they were failed by a few points. Some do elect to take on part time work and good for them. And then you have the massive california private school tuitions with the skyhigh cost of living. Im not going to crunch the numbers but its a disaster. I know many fellow grads that still havent passed the bar (july 09 grads) and there debt is flying through the roof.

In California, the Tier 4's turned into the non ABA tier 5's, the tier 3's into tier 4's. Some tier 3 grads at the very top of their classes are getting jobs, but the bottom 95% are SOL. I find it amazing that the most desperate students are electing to attend the non ABA schools. Even the USA JOBS website specifically states that applicants with "JD's acquired from non ABA approved schools will not be considered". I know some tier 4 subprimes that got jobs off the USAJOBS website doing defense dept work and other dept of homeland security jobs. But most of these students had military backgrounds. I guess the non ABA subprimes have fallen under the same delusion and scam that we fell into ourselves. Not that im trying to defend ABA TTT's, but at least the students in these schools are relying on false employment data and 70-50% pass rates. The T^5's know full well that the pass rates are sub 20%. In addition, T^5's dont even post employment data! So even if they believe in the law school scam, they consiously disregard the impossible pass rates. TTT's are still relying on fraudlent law school provided stats. The only voice of truth is coming from us bad ass scam busters and the occasional MSM article.

Bottom line, Cali subprimeJD's are suffering big time. Attend law school at your own risk.
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